I think I just totally pwned a scammer. Winning

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This dispute is ongoing. Some guy named dscotese posts a cash deposit for BTC at bitstamp spot and I accept. I call him out on this bullshit, he plays dumb Fucker tries to scam me with a chargeback, well now he's going to pay.

Ah, that explains why he's been able to sell so low. I was competing with him to sell, and he was able to sell way under the typical margins here. I should have known he scams people. And he's the scammer?! It seems out of character to me. I'm certainly guilty dscotese local bitcoin times of jumping the gun and assuming a scam, but i don't know.

I'd be interested in any new information you can share with us. Please Let us know how dscotese local bitcoin develop. LOL he probably creates 25 accounts and constantly gives himself positive feedback. People d that on SR all the time and I'm sure they do it here.

If Localbitcoins arbitration dscotese local bitcoin people decide I keep the coins I think I should keep half personally But the fucker lied on his ad, because the kind of transaction he did comes with premium Thus, I demand at the very least premium, but the son of a bitch created a fake ad using a payment system I'm not comfortable with, and I think he did it to try to get a dscotese local bitcoin.

I think he did it to try to get a chargeback. Operative word here is "think". You should dscotese local bitcoin your dscotese local bitcoin on what you know, not what you think. No one ever knows things with absolute certainty Localbitcoins won't take this lightly.

Because if days pass. If the account and funds are really his. You'd be in big trouble. I know what happens when you close a account The bank will refund whats in there as long as it clears. So once it does return his funds. I have checked your feedback and apparently you were a Venmo scammer.

SO your story sounds kinda invalid to me. Alligator shoes, you're a fucking moron. I'm not taking shit you idiot. I am filing a dispute with localbitcoins you tard. No one is going to jail over filing a dispute with local bitcoins. BTW, I've been scammed on Venmo. I don't use it. I think the guy who left me negative feedback is the guy who scammed me, but I don't even remember. As dscotese local bitcoin pointed out earlier in this thread, you have both the money and the bitcoin.

Which to an objective observer, looks bad. Asks my clients, I think I'm probably the most reliable dscotese local bitcoin and seller on here. But if someone throws bullshit my way, I will fuck with them including leaving negative feedback. If they want to do the same, that's their prerogative. I'd rather keep things real. Open full view… I dscotese local bitcoin I just totally pwned a scammer.

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This is a great idea to start on Reddit. I have been using CTC for the last several years. I have never had an issue with the state and didn't have an issue with IRS until our refund did not include the S. They decided to send frivolous letters for both that year and the following year and threatened bank levies.

I have just held strong to my belief and fired back letters, with the help of other successful CTC warrior's letters. I stopped the levies and finally quit getting frivolous letters. So I fired off another demand of refund. This time I got back a letter that the IRS audited our account and decided we were indeed due a refund. Of course this was no where the full refund actually due so I wrote them another letter stating I disagreed and they don't have the right to change my Although it isn't a win yet, I think it is in the way that they went from racking up multiple frivolous penalties on both my husband and I, to now admitting we are due a refund They still admitted they were wrong.

I believe part of why we started getting these nasty letters is because we were trying to get a family member involved and they used our address for correspondence. When they had a request for more information, my family gave in. After that, we started with our trouble from the IRS. Especially after they changed their tune and are admitting the were wrong!!

For those who are unsure about this process, you must stand your ground on what has worked for thousands of people. Otherwise, you're giving the IRS more power and making it more difficult for those who do stay in the fight. I have a handy allegory or metaphor for the stand you have taken here. If you don't see how it fits, please give those who do a chance to explain:. Allligator owns an alligator that likes to eat people. He has buddied up with the city council, so instead of coming down hard on him for allowing a predator to eat the town's children, they are negotiating to see how much of a child is okay for the alligator to eat, or if they can work out a deal where everyone donates a pinky toe or something.

Sane people are called crazy because they say this negotiation is idiotic. D There are a lot of ways that Bisq developers figured out how to do very tamper-proof evidence, like the Page signer, that grabs cryptographic proof that a certain "screenshot" from a web page actually comes from that webpage and etc.

Video tho can be tampered a lot easier by plenty of people who are familiar with video editing methods. Like a green screen for example, just add a green cloth over the tracking number and edit in another tracking number. Nearly all video tampering is detectable. That which isn't may soon be. Anyway, I have done thousands of cash by mail trades and never used video. I just don't trade large enough amounts for it to matter. One scammer claimed that he keeps trading with me and got me a few times.

He plays hide and go seek. He has karma to deal with. Keeping cash-by-mail out of BISQ doesn't serve us. If we agree with the risks you state put them in the ToS , then we will avoid the payment method. I don't think we can expect from arbitrators to investigate video tampering.

My opinion is that this kind of trust isn't very suitable for Bisq and will murky the waters on trust needed to trade on Bisq. It just wouldn't fit and many users will assume it does, which is bad advertisement for Bisq. Alex, you underestimate the depth of interest in making trading safe.

It's new, it's exciting, and the nature of the evidence that does turn up will surprise everyone and deal a serious blow to those who wish to deceive. Especially if there is a bond of some sort involved. I feel that you are clipping the wings of what would be a phoenix with your fear of bad advertising. LBC handles the same situation by simply saying: What if after the fork?

I have transfer some bitcoin on jaxx 4 days after the fork will I still get bch? The BCH you had at the time of the fork is still in the private keys from your Jaxx 4 wallet. Just make sure the new wallet software is signed by someone you trust with the amount of BCH that is still in your old wallet. That would be an ideal situation. If the BTC seller just takes the money and walks away, then there is a problem.

The existence and use of bisq has nothing to do with a mugging, pickpocket, or purse-snatcher. The seller who takes the money is doing exactly that. The fact is that two people meet and one has his own money, and the other is ready to send his btc through bisq. If he releases it, then the cash belongs to the seller. If he doesn't release it, the cash belongs to the buyer. If the wrong person leaves with the cash, it's the same as any other theft.

The main problem with it is that there can be no tamper-proof evidence for an arbitrator in case of a dispute. Unless in future some arbitrators want to meet with the users in person and witness, than that is fine I guess. Arbitrators should be able to indicate that they are willing to arbitrate each of the possible payment types, including "meet in person. When an arbitration happens, is the loser able to publish the proceedings? I think that is important and should always be available. Thanks for the shout out!

I am very grateful to you for posting this. Would ir be much trouble to make items in the reports into links? I could do it myself, I suppose, for everyone's benefit The site version already has links , as listed at the start of the post. I can't do it on here or I get automodded for containing too many links. In anarchy, private property is whatever you can defend for yourself.

The more capable you are at using force, the more property you have. This is the antithesis of liberty, property, and even life - as I'd be lawful in taking your life and property. I do not need any socialized defense for my property to be property and private. In fact, socializing the cost of that defense actually degrades my private property. I think you may be missing the point that many people are good and respectful even when there is no "Leviathan" breathing down their neck with some kind of threat to force them to be that way.

For example, you wrote:. What actually drives you is your desire to live in a peaceful society that respects YOUR private property rights. When you grok that the same desire exists in nearly everyone else, with or without the "law" then you will understand that being "lawful" isn't really important at all.

I think you already know this. Your property is yours only until someone takes it from you. Yes, a thief wants their claimed property protected. Just because they steal from someone, does not mean they want to be a victim of theft. Its a fact of life - people are dicks. Thats why we had to create laws and government in the first place. I don't believe you're talking about yourself, but I was talking about you, and me, and most everyone else.

The few thieves who remain after all the ones who entered into politics are pretty simple for me to handle through protective mechanisms and risk-awareness. The ones who entered politics are the ones that worry me the most, and your argument attempts to justify their bad behavior.

Private processes encourage centralization: Sure, bad actors have the same access, but if we are to be decentralized, we must withhold judgement until they've proven to be bad actors, and then who decides? If you want to gather a team that will make processes as private as possible, you have to be careful because the open process that suffers from bad actors may end up rejecting your results.

I mean making a list of or so nodes that are open to receiving fixes first so the whole network cannot be taken down. I think it gets implemented by default because there are people all over the map regarding the question of how long it takes them to upgrade when a new version comes out. It is the tinfoil hat stuff that people think isn't real that is at the root of most problems humanity faces.

That tolerance for paying tribute is generally increased by the worsening of problems, but that is because people don't realize that the worsening is a result of efforts by the same people who are collecting the tribute.

It is a con. My view is extremely cynical, and it is difficult to fathom that it may actually be the case. Anyone who is willing to let that possibility live in their minds for a little while will find evidence that supports it, along with methods of decreasing its prevalence.

There is a small but growing population of people who do that research, identify those methods, and engage in them. We are Voluntaryists , Anarchists, Libertarians, Objectivists, and even minarchists.

We will eventually eliminate many of the big problems humanity faces because of sociopaths in office , but faster if you join us.

Regarding your tinfoil hat dismissal, I think the effect of your dismissal is justified, not because government power isn't actually being used to prevent BTC from making the job of farming human beings more difficult, but because that power can't find the intellectual prowess to defeat bitcoin in those willing to work with governments.

Most civil servants enter government work because they love humanity and want to serve it. That love of our species has to be destroyed in someone smart enough to help defeat a system like bitcoin or the internet itself before they will help to defeat it.